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    Default Deferred rent liability classification

    How do you determine the current and long term portion of a deferred rent liability if you are the lessee?

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    Not sure I follow your question but short and long term portions are like all others (based on when the payments are due). The monthly booked liability will be all LT until the payment schedule changes to where you begin to pay down on the liability created.

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    Default Disguised Sales And Leases

    Disguised Sales And Leases

    Remember Leases are not classified as liabilities if capitalized for term
    exceeding (a number I forget). Example: lease payments in NY for building
    with 99 year lease, 98 years paid in advance qualify as sale. You may
    expense , if necessary, or treat as a category of sale liken to car loan.

    Above example egregious?
    NY Townhouse with 30 year lease, 10 years prepaid may qualify as sale for
    tax AND ledger accounting.
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    Helse my friend,

    "Remember Leases are not classified as liabilities if capitalized for term
    exceeding (a number I forget)."

    Your confusing me here as this statement refers to the lessee and treatment chosen by the lessee has nothing to do with that of the lessor and vice versa. Liabilities are still recorded by the lessee even if the lease is capitalized. The OP spoke of deferred rent liability which relates to the uneven schedule of rent paid and the effective cost of the lease amortized on a straight line basis.

    Am I missing something?

    Then your example refers to the lessor's treatment.

    "Example: lease payments in NY for building
    with 99 year lease, 98 years paid in advance qualify as sale. You may
    expense , if necessary, or treat as a category of sale liken to car loan."

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    Default Lease Interest as Property

    Treatment chosen by a lessee is governed by state law & the UCC.
    Long term leases are not always "leases", they may be securities, or, estates in property.

    Lessee with prepaid long-term "rent" may be required to record lease as asset with
    maintenance expenses.

    "Merely affixing a label to a transaction is not dispositive." Poster remarks the contract is
    in the nature of a long term lease ["long term portion of deferred rent liability"].
    Deferred rent liability may trigger conversion of interest to an estate in property (gift tax liability?).

    To wit:
    "There are certain timeless struggles in this existence. Good versus evil. Man against
    nature. Mets versus Yankees.

    True Lease
    And of particular interest to this readership is the epic battle of "true lease versus
    security interest." The conflict between secured lenders and competing parties over
    what constitutes a valid and enforceable security interest and not a true leasehold
    has occupied many commentators..."
    http://www.allbusiness.com/business-.../974246-1.html

    [UCC] "Section 1-201(37) are set out in the disjunctive. The presence of any
    characteristic listed in the former will create a security interest where a lease may
    have been intended, while the mere presence of the provisions catalogued in the
    latter will not necessarily convert an intended lease into a security interest."
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...21343837/pg_2/

    Concluding
    Long-term lease (or deferred rent) may not constitute "rent" for balance sheet
    or I/E calculation. Consider a prepaid 20 year lease on a company auto with
    a depreciation schedule of less than 10 years. Is the auto a leased vehicle or property
    listed on balance sheet similar to prepaid insurance? Answer, it depends.
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    Default The Continuing Debate Regarding the Lease Versus Disguised Security Interest



    University of Iowa (The Journal of Corporation Law)
    The Journal of Corporation Law
    COMMENT: The Continuing Debate Regarding the Lease Versus Disguised Security Interest
    24 Iowa J. Corp. L. 169
    Excerpt

    I. Introduction


    Companies that engage in lease transactions need to be aware of how to structure
    their contracts to avoid the risk of courts later finding their leases to be disguised
    security agreements. Since the extensive revision of Uniform Commercial Code (U.C.C.)
    section 1-201(37) in 1987, companies now have a list of criteria courts look to in
    determining whether a transaction is a true lease or a disguised security agreement.
    Although the revised section 1-201(37) was intended to clarify the lease versus security
    interest issue, this issue continues to be one of the most litigated issues under the
    U.C.C. 1
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