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    Hi peeps, I have this question for my homework. It is

    Why would a company not want shareholders to increase their wealth?

    I originally thought that companies always maximise shareholders wealth, as the shareholders are the ones who give capital for the companies to grow.

    Could someone please explain

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    This question is very important for those companies where we have shareholders, who do not manage the company by themselves, i.e. shareholders hire managers who manage the business.

    Usually the performance of the management and their bonuses depend on the results of operations, on the profitability and other factors which might not necessary increase shareholders value.

    For example if bonuses of the management depend on the short-term profitability, they will seek to increase it, even accepting significant risks related to the certain transactions which provide high profitability in order to earn the bonuses. Such transactions might have a negative impact on the increase of shareholders wealth.

    You could explore a bit more about such confilcts referring to the agency theory, as a starting point this could be Wikipedia. Also there is a lot of information on other websites. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principal-agent_problem

    To avoid the above issues the main task is to create proper motivation system for the management which will ensure that shareholders wealth is maximized.

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    Default Corporation Distributions vs. Retained Income

    Asset Protection:
    Corporation owns equipment to severe inclusion in shareholder/officer's estate in:
    B.K. Court, Divorce or Family Court, State and Federal Tax Court.

    Tax related consideration:
    S Corporation strategy: Distribute shareholder dividends FY closure. Why?
    S Corp shareholders' tax liability, similar rule with partnerships, extends to dividends distributed
    or retained at the corporation level, so-called undistributed net-profits, forcing shareholders to
    pay state and federal taxes from their personal accounts at 1040 Time (variables apply according
    to character of income).

    C Corporation strategy: Same. Align bonus to officers to equal dividend income. Why?
    A bonus is deductible to the C Corp as a business expense and taxed to the recipient. C Corps.
    pay tax on income before distribution to shareholder(s), hence the topic of Corporation
    double taxation to Corp. and shareholder. Nonpublicly traded C Corps are relatively rare today,
    I'm exposing my age.

    Second, consider depreciation advantages in the following light:
    Corporation purchases auto for dentist, an officer/employee/sole shareholder of Dentist
    Corporation. Dentist drives Dentist Corporation auto for work related travel. Dentist
    Corporation purchases auto with Corporation funds derived from FY Gross Receipts.

    Alternatives, Dentist or Dentist Corporation allocates:
    a. dividends
    b. bonus
    c. dentist's salary
    d. dentist's capital gain realized from sale of stock
    e. phantom stock plan income
    f. 401(k)

    Notation:
    Fuel, insurance, registration, depreciation and maintenance are allocatable to corporation's pretax income.
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    As Helse points out there are several ways to increase shareholder wealth that don't call for a maximized earnings strategy, especially with closely held entities. If this question wasn't so old (Sep 08) I would question what the OP specifically meant with the question "Why would a company not want shareholders to increase their wealth?" It would help to know whether the question is directed to all entities, public entities or closely held entities.

    Besides those that Helse mentioned you can always have the situation where they are attempting to transform ordinary income into capital gains or deferring revenue/increasing expense for income or estate tax reasons.

    With closely held entities there can be situations where one entity is designed to show less income and another more. All the schemes I've seen have been to ultimately enhance the stockholders in one way or another. Sometimes they are just well hidden or sometimes they just fail and result in diminished returns.

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    Default Q: From 2008?

    Waiting since 2008 for an answer. I didn't see the date of inquiry.

    Helse asks Pat rhetorically: an attempt to maximize capital gains increases shareholder value, hence
    my exclusion of the concept.

    Above comments from Pat remind me:

    1. Nonprofit corporation accounting

    Excludes concept of owner's equity or shareholder value.
    Includes system of valuation of services performed (free food, credit counseling, church services, etc)

    2. Allocation of loss from multi-entity structure.

    Occasionally a "tree" of corporations, partnership entities and/or trusts are created with the
    specific design to distribute losses or tax prejudiced items such as depreciation to shareholders
    with an eye toward offsetting income from alternative sources.

    Example:
    Doctor with professional income from LLP entity (1065 filer) desires to receive disproportionate
    rate of tax loss and depreciation from apartment building investment. The real estate is isolated
    in an LLC with 4 owners (ignore potential active/passive loss or attribution rule violation):
    Doctor
    Doctor's brother
    Doctor's trust for children
    Doctor's trust for grandchildren

    Doctor seeks 100% of depreciation and allocation of state/local taxes on the LLC's 1065 K-1.
    Real Property LLC Agreement mandates rental income shall be allocated to payment of mortgage
    ensuring building will pass to children and grandchildren upon death of Doctor and Doctor's brother.
    LLC agreement stipulates interests in LLC are nontransferable (assume issue of gift abated).
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    Tax guys love doctors. Doctors always purchase land and bldg then rent it back to the practice generating passive income used to offset their other passive losses thus avoiding passive loss carryforwards.

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    hi guys,

    Capital Budgeting is deciding which projects the firm is considering are most profitable. Usually done by an NPV or IRR analysis.By focusing on the best projects a company will maximize shareholder wealth. In order to maximize shareholder wealth over the long term, firms need to chose projects with positive NPVs and fit with their strategic vision.

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    Shareholder wealth (more commonly referred to as shareholder value) is talking about the value of the company generally expressed in the value of the stock. Companies often decide to forgo marginal increases in profit if they feel the lower margins on the incremental gains in profit will have a negative impact share price. They actually increase shareholder value by NOT making more profit.

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    Most stock pricing models use some form of a discounted value of future cash flow or dividends. A management who looks only to short-term considerations may be able to please The Street this quarter, but will not likely be able to execute a program that will create shareholder wealth over the long term. Often planning for the future involves making decisions today, which is one way to define strategic planning.

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